Thursday, March 9, 2017

Daemons Discuss - Podcast: Take 12! | Relatable Moments in The All Souls Trilogy

This quote is attributed to poet Cesare Pavese (however, he didn't contract the words 'do not' 😉)

Take 12 - The One With the Moments

Description: Before we get into chapter discussions (now that we've done many of the primer subjects relating to this trilogy), we wanted to reflect on some of the moments throughout the Trilogy that talked to us, and how we related to them in our own lives.  There were quite a few moments, but we managed to narrow them down to snapshot selections to effectively discuss them.  If you'd ask us tomorrow, we may come up with something totally different!  A big thank you goes to our Discussers, who really delivered on sharing their moments with us.

SPOILER ALERT! We (The Daemons) approach this podcast with an assumption that the listener has read The All Souls Trilogy, including A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night, and The Book of Life.  If you haven't, and you don't mind, we certainly don't mind!  😊  Let's do this.


1. Show notes:

For newcomers to the series:
- We'll start with the basics: The books in discussion are A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night and The Book of Life.  Together they make The All Souls Trilogy by Deborah Harkness. 
- Our Daemon Guides to the All Souls Trilogy are available for download: ADOW, SON, TBOL
- If you'd like a ready-reference from the author herself, be sure to download the All Souls Real-Time Reading companion (free e-book at online booksellers via Penguin and Headline books).
- Deborah Harkness usually conducts a real-time reading on her Facebook Page (starting in September), and shares her posts across social media.  Check out her website for all of her social media links, and of course all that she has to offer her readers!
- To see what's available on the web as far as the All Souls universe fandom, check our links page.

In this episode:

* (00:40) Angela had some back issues this last week!  We are so happy she’s feeling better.

* (01:15) Angela was referring to our alchemy episode (Take 10)

* (02:14) Emails from Discussers: Aly (related to Diana’s experience with horses), Alyssa (related to Diana working with manuscripts and how it cemented her personal career decisions, and helped her through some rough times), Stephen (related to Diana’s flying up the stairs in TBOL – he compared them to his flying dreams), Aviva (related to Matthew falling while building the church to her father’s accident), Milana (related to Marcus’ meeting of Pheobe, and how exciting lust at first sight is), and last but not least, Imogen (related to Diana’s first experience with witch wind – she compared it to the anxiety and panic attacks that she’s experienced).  Thank you all, Discussers!  We really appreciate your inputs.

* (15:53) Jean’s relatable moment in A Discovery of Witches:
Baldwin’s appearance in ADOW.  Jean saw it as very lawyerly (his explaining the the mission of the Knights of Lazarus).  Jean being a lawyer, she saw it as Baldwin laying out his case.
“The Knights don’t come to their master’s aid because of a love affair gone wrong, Matthew. We fought at the Battle of Acre. We helped the Albigensian heretics resist the northerners. We survived the demise of the Templars and the English advances at Crécy and Agincourt. The Knights of Lazarus were on the ships that beat back the Ottoman Empire at Lepanto, and when we refused to fight any further, the Thirty Years’ War came to an end. The brotherhood’s purpose is to ensure that vampires survive in a world dominated by humans.”
* (18:04) Angela’s relatable moment in A Discovery of Witches:
She related to Diana being rather guarded.  Angela has a few good friends that she’s had forever, and Diana seems to be the same way (example: Chris).

* (23:13) Valerie’s relatable moment in A Discovery of Witches:
Hamish; he’s a grand observer -- throughout chapter 9, he knew what was going on with Matthew where Matthew failed to see it.  Valerie has had similar experiences with friends/acquaintances.

* (26:22) Jean’s relatable moment in Shadow of Night:
Mont Saint-Michel:

Mont Saint-Michel
 And that was the last glimpse I had of Matthew Clairmont, scientist. The man who strode toward the door was no longer an Oxford don but a Renaissance prince. It was in his bearing, the set of his shoulders, his aura of banked strength, and the cold look in his eyes. Hamish had been right to warn me that Matthew would not be the same man here. Under Matthew’s smooth surface, a profound metamorphosis was taking place. Somewhere high above, the bells tolled the hours. Scientist. Vampire. Warrior. Spy. The bells paused before the final knell.Prince.I wondered what more our journey would reveal about this complex man I had married.

* (28:00) Angela’s relatable moment in Shadow of Night:
The time travel.  Angela’s always wanted to time travel since she was a child.

An example of a child's cardboard time machine.  Source: Cardboardia comes to Skeleton Park
* (29:00) Valerie’s relatable moment in Shadow of Night:
Diana’s pregnancy.  Valerie has had some interesting pregnancy related hormone-driven experiences; her memories were hilariously triggered by this moment:
“Don’t you dare say this isn’t good for the baby. I’m not some vessel.” My temper was at full boil now. “First it was my blood you wanted for your scientific experiments, and now it’s this baby.”Matthew, damn him, stood quietly by, arms crossed and gray eyes hard.“Well?” I demanded.“Well what? Apparently my participation in this conversation isn’t required. You’re already finishing my sentences. You might as well start them, too.”“This has nothing to do with my hormones,” I said. Belatedly it occurred to me that this statement alone was probably evidence to the contrary.
* (31:30) Jean’s relatable moment in The Book of Life: Ysabeau at the Wolseley. She says it was more aspirational than relatable.  She enjoyed Ysabeau’s entrance/presence in the room.

Fernando tried to hold open the door for Ysabeau, but Adam beat him to it. My mother-in-law looked like a youthful film star, and every male head in the room turned as she entered with Phoebe in her wake. Fernando hung back, his dark coat the perfect backdrop for Ysabeau’s off-white and taupe ensemble.
            “No wonder Ysabeau prefers to stay at home,” I said. She stood out like a beacon on a foggy day.
            “Philippe always said it was easier to withstand a siege than to cross a room at Ysabeau’s side. He had to fend off her admirers with more than a stick, I can tell you.” Gallowglass rose as his grandmother approached.
* (33:14) Angela’s relatable moment in The Book of Life:
She related to the TBOL because she appreciated to the rag-tag family that was Bishop-Clairmont.  Her childhood home was often a refuge for “stray” people who needed love/care/support.
"There was a gratifying amount of agreement around the room. Despite the rocky start, we’d enjoyed a perfectly pleasant evening as a family."

* (34:35) Valerie’s relatable moment in The Book of Life:
Diana’s reaction after finding out Gerbert had his hands in all of the foul doings of the congregation.  Valerie notoriously reacts similarly to such situations.
“Why didn’t the information about Gerbert go to Venice?” I demanded of Matthew when at last I found him in the kitchen making my tea. Ysabeau was with him, playing with Philip and Becca.
            “Because it’s better if the rest of the Congregation doesn’t know about Gerbert’s involvement,” Matthew said.
            “Better for whom?” I asked sharply. “I want that creature exposed and punished.”
            “But the Congregation’s punishments are so very unsatisfactory,” Ysabeau said, her eyes gleaming. “Too much talking. Not enough pain. If it is punishment you want, let me do it.”
* (37:28) News: Deb’s update for February – Her March Pinterest Inspiration BoardAll Souls Con coming in 2017

* (38:34) Jean Mentioned the Mask of RoyaltyLacey Baldwin Smith

* (42:47) We didn’t mention in this recording that All Souls Con passes will go on sale the 18th of March.  Early bird prices!!!  $79 dollars for passes (until 16 Jun 2017…will go up to $99 afterwards); virtual passes are $12 (will go up to $16 after June 15th).

Interested in going to All Souls Con (actually or virtually)?  Visit:
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•    All Souls Con Attendees (Facebook Group)

* (47:39) 😡😖😤 OUR CURSED EPISODE!!!  We have tried to put together a Daemons after Dark episode (a follow up to Episode 3).  The Goddess said NO.  After our third time, we are GIVING UP 😳😂!

* (49:44) Angela’s giving up walking for Lent ….  that attitude pretty much sums up ours for the months of February/early March!

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