Thursday, July 30, 2020

Daemons Discuss - Podcast: Take 72! | Chapter Discussion about the All Souls Trilogy; Chapter 4 of The Book of Life

The key to it all... (OK, maybe not THE key, but A key 😝)

Take 72 - The One With Congregation Revelation

Description: Through a series of tussles (verbal/physical) between the head of the de Clermont family and the Grand Master of the Knights of Lazarus, we finally learn who in the family actually holds that elusive seat on the Congregation, and where the HQ is located -- REVELATION! After we've examined all of the information in front of us, we finally understand why the rag-tag group of creatures must scatter in a week's time. As we go, these chapters continue to be dense with information, so naturally the episodes are longer! Take it in bites, or gobble the whole thing! P.S. Don't be a "Karen," wear your masks, and let's get out of this mess!

SPOILER ALERT! We (The Daemons) approach this podcast with an assumption that the listener has read All Souls universe books, including the trilogy (A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night, The Book of Life), and  Time's Convert + snippits from The World of All Souls. If you haven't, and you don't mind, we certainly don't mind!  Please be advised, we will approach the television series (A Discovery of Witches) the same way as episodes are released in the US/Canada. 😊  Let's do this. *Note - this podcast is labeled 'explicit'

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1. Show notes:

For newcomers to the series:
  • Our Daemon Guides to the All Souls Trilogy are available for download: ADOW, SON, TBOL 
  • If you'd like a ready-reference from the author herself, be sure to download the All Souls Real-Time Reading companion (free e-book at online booksellers via Penguin and Headline books). For a more in-depth view of the trilogy, The World of All Souls is available at all major book sellers, as well as the continuation volume into this world, Time's Convert.
  • Deborah Harkness usually conducts a real-time reading on her Facebook Page (starting in September), and shares her posts across social media. Check out her website for all of her social media links, and of course all that she has to offer her readers! Be sure to sign up for her newsletter while you are there!
  • To see what's available on the web as far as the All Souls universe fandom, check our links page.
To those of us who read the books prior to the TV show, the Congregation's location was a mystery until now! The Grand Canal in Venice
In this episode:
By the segment . . .
  • (00:15) Intro/Patreon sponsorship
  • (05:07) Discusser emails/Speakpipe - Thank you Zoe, Cassidy, and Chloe.
  • (13:05) Main discussion - Chapter 4 of The Book of Life. Sponsored by Leah Tedrow
  • (59:05) Housekeeping - Thank you Zoe, Olivia and Barbara. Sponsored by Carol Woodward
    Extended emails can be read *HERE*
  • (1:26:18) Save It For the Show - Topic: "KAREN." Sponsored by Kimberly Babcock
  • (1:41:20) Promo break - scroll down, or click here to get a hold of us and/or become a Discusser.
  • (1:42:45) Last thoughts/Outro. 
Topic:  
Chapter 4, The Book of Life
  • Diana starts interrogating Matthew about what’s she’s learned during the first family meeting.
  • When was the last time Matthew was used as the family assassin?πŸ•΅️‍♀️
  • Boob knives! πŸ—‘
  • Gallowglass enters, Matthew takes off with him, and Diana is left wondering what is going on. Marthe: “Meh, Baldwin’s home” πŸ˜‚
  • Diana, meet Earnst. Earnst, Diana. Pleased to meet you! 🀝
  • Earnst and Verin formulate a plan to get Verin into that meeting!
  • Earnst is used to arming himself during these meetings — wha?!
  • The house guests are directed to the salon (Hamish, Sarah, Nathaniel and company...)
  • Scene change! 🎬
  • Wagon crash … of course. πŸ’₯πŸš™
  • Enter the meeting; Phoebe, Marcus, Baldwin, Matthew, Gallowglass are in attendance, and now add Verin and Diana.
  • Baldwin makes a head of the family declaration! πŸ‘‘
  • Marcus is not having it!
  • Was the split of the Congregation/Knights of Lazarus to ensure a power balance?
  • The meeting starts going feral! WATCH IT, PHOEBE! 😳
  • Baldwin breaks it down for the rest of the meeting attendees. Oh, and he happens to be the de Clermont on the Congregation (remember, the TV show was NOT out when we first read this!); revelation #1πŸ’‘
  • Baldwin explains the story from his POV.
  • Democracy’s efficacy with ancient attitudes: #FAIL
  • Baldwin is explaining the damage that Marcus has done.
  • "INFERIOR". Diana: 🀬RAGE! Ysabeau: 😴 Yawn.
  • Baldwin's way: Work the system. Marcus’s way: Burn they systemπŸ”₯!
  • We find out Knox's consequences. πŸš”
  • Knox DID kill Emily. Ooooooooh...
  • The Scottish witches, and their historical Easter-egg tie-ins.
  • The congregation believes Matthew has the missing pages. He doesn’t! It’s the truth…he has missing PAGE! Matthew didn’t lie (much)!
  • However, Ysabeau can smell the LIES πŸ€₯
  • Baldwin lays out what he promised the congregation.
  • Gerbert and Satu will be the Inspectors General! EEK!πŸ™€
  • The family and friends must scatter!
  • The Congregation will have insurance. Ysabeau will be that insurance.
  • Venice is where Congregation headquarters is! For book readers (pre-TV), this was revelation #2.πŸ’‘
  • Ysabeau will be vacationing at Gerbert’s — she’s making sure Gerbert’s 5 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ butcher will be available.πŸ–πŸ§³
  • We all agree that this is a bunch of political theater. 🎭
  • Matthew, Marcus and Diana's roles are laid out by Ysabeau.
  • CHANGE OF SCENE! 🎬
  • 🎼🎡 Bach plays so the other vampires won’t eavesdrop. 🎢
  • Matthew and Diana have a conversation argument about the road they need to take re: A782.
  • The case for a strong head of the family; dissertation by Matthew Clairmont. πŸŽ“
  • Diana guesses that Matthew’s role will require him to assassinate Knox. Matthew explains that his actions will not be for the family, but for Emily.
  • Scene change! 🎬
  • Ysabeau and Diana are talking at the temple.
  • Diana shares the letter from Philippe.
  • Ysabeau leaves Diana with advice.
  • FIN
A white hart; Ysabeau describes one visiting the temple occasionally.
Special Thanks:
  • Thank you to our Patron sponsors this episode: Leah Tedrow, Carol Woodward & Kimberly Babcock.
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Credits/Copyright Information * Intro music: "Ghost Dance" (edited down to second chorus) by Kevin Macleod, licensed for use by Creative Commons.
*  Outro music: Rimsky-Korsakov - "Scheherazade Symphonic Suite for Orchestra Op.35 - IV. Allegro molto," Public domain/copyright-free.  
* All other music used is licensed via several different royalty-free sources (as are sound effects).
* "Save it for the Show" segment introduction voice-over by Devyn Grendell  
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Monday, July 13, 2020

Daemons Discuss - Podcast: Take 71! | Chapter Discussion about the All Souls Trilogy; Chapter 3 of The Book of Life

One view of a the library at ChΓ’teau-Dauphin (Deb's inspiration for Sept-Tours in the book series)

Take 71 - The One With the Quorum

Description: Family Meeting. Time: 4 am. Place: The de Clermont library, Sept-Tours. RSVP: N/A. Be there, or else. That sums it up, doesn't it? We learn that we STILL need to learn a lot about vampires (geez, Matthew)! This is a long one, but we had some things to say . . . stay tuned during Save It For the Show. We saved plenty for the show. This is another long episode, guys; it's just going to be that way for a while since 2020 continues to surprise and (DISMAY🀬) delight.

We we ponder if confronting Baldwin in this meeting would be as intimidating as it would be appearing in Royal Court.
John Dee performing an experiment before Elizabeth I, by Henry Gillard Glindoni. Photograph: Wellcome Library
SPOILER ALERT! We (The Daemons) approach this podcast with an assumption that the listener has read All Souls universe books, including the trilogy (A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night, The Book of Life), and  Time's Convert + snippits from The World of All Souls. If you haven't, and you don't mind, we certainly don't mind!  Please be advised, we will approach the television series (A Discovery of Witches) the same way as episodes are released in the US/Canada. 😊  Let's do this. *Note - this podcast is labeled 'explicit'

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Listen:

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 1. Show notes:

For newcomers to the series:
  • Our Daemon Guides to the All Souls Trilogy are available for download: ADOW, SON, TBOL 
  • If you'd like a ready-reference from the author herself, be sure to download the All Souls Real-Time Reading companion (free e-book at online booksellers via Penguin and Headline books). For a more in-depth view of the trilogy, The World of All Souls is available at all major book sellers, as well as the continuation volume into this world, Time's Convert.
  • Deborah Harkness usually conducts a real-time reading on her Facebook Page (starting in September), and shares her posts across social media. Check out her website for all of her social media links, and of course all that she has to offer her readers! Be sure to sign up for her newsletter while you are there!
  • To see what's available on the web as far as the All Souls universe fandom, check our links page.
TV "Sept-Tours" - Castle of Monselice, Veneto. Italy, 11th-16th century, photographed in 2016 (Getty, HF)
In this episode:
By the segment . . .
  • (00:15) Intro/🚨Warning/Patreon sponsorship
  • (04:41) Discusser emails/Speakpipe - Thank you Camille, Kit, and Lyndsey -Truncated emails can be read *HERE*
  • (10:11) Main discussion - Ch 3, TBOL
  • (1:05:24) Housekeeping - Thank you Camille, Olivia, and Patricia. Sponsored by Zoe Gibson
  • (1:10:46) Save It For the Show - Topic: All Souls -- what does that mean in the human world? 🚨 A discussion about race in the US. Sponsored by Leah Tedrow
  • (1:52:56) Promo break - scroll down, or click here to get a hold of us and/or become a Discusser -- information on joining our Facebook group also located on that page.
  • (1:54:53) Farewell -- until next time. 
Topic:  
Chapter 3, The Book of Life
  • We enter the library, and Diana is going in hot! 🀬
  • Couldn’t this meeting be an email, guys?
  • Banked strength - Baldwin and Matthew are more alike than we thought.
  • Meet Verin, Diana.
  • Baldwin just happened to be in the neighborhood, and πŸ’₯ BLOOD VOW!
  • Baldwin wonders out loud about the spells that Diana could’ve used to obtain Philippe’s blood vow.
  • Story time, Baldwin. Diana and Matthew time-walked!
  • We wonder if they are depending on legend lore vs. actually witnessing a blood vow being bestowed on a warmblood before?
  • Baldwin and Verin outline what actually being a verified TRUE de Clermont requires ...
  • We discuss the inconsistency in Fernando’s description between The Book of Life and Time’s Convert.
  • Jean notes Fernando’s sh*t stirring.
  • Meet Fernando, Diana.
  • Enter Gallowglass to provide clarity, and make some unintentional trouble between Verin and Baldwin.
  • Verin tells the story.
  • Diana is adamant that she doesn’t need Baldwin or Verin’s recognition. DAMN IT.
  • Matthew, you didn’t have time? Really?
  • Diana STILL has a lot to learn about vampires. πŸ§›πŸ»‍♂️
  • Verin offers to school her about the act of bestowing a blood vow.
  • Baldwin makes a starting offer.
  • A pedigree? New to Diana, us, but NOT MATTHEW πŸ™„.
  • Baldwin throws a low blow.
  • Matthew takes it from verbal sniping to physical threatening.
  • ASSASIN!!! 😳
  • Verin…ouch that stings!
  • Matthew … DAMN…
  • Of course a fight ensues 🀣
  • Diana saves Matthew with some witch wind πŸ’¨
  • Matthew does have the stones, Verin.
  • Baldwin: Who knows, maybe they’ll kill them, and we won’t have to worry about ANY of this😬
  • Meeting adjourned, and we learn that Gallowglass has been watching Diana for a long time.
  • Alain! Yay! 
  • He’s got the GOODS. And the $$$$!πŸ€‘
  • Philippe’s letter.
  • Diana’s cords have gone wild! 🐍
  • FIN
We'll call this book "Sept-Tours" ChΓ’teau-Dauphin is located in the Auvergne, France
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Credits/Copyright Information * Intro music: "Ghost Dance" (edited down to second chorus) by Kevin Macleod, licensed for use by Creative Commons.
*  Outro music: Rimsky-Korsakov - "Scheherazade Symphonic Suite for Orchestra Op.35 - IV. Allegro molto," Public domain/copyright-free. 
* In this episode: Mozart - "The Requiem in D minor, K. 626 - Lacrimosa dies illa" - Public domain/copyright-free
* All other music used is licensed via several different royalty-free sources (as are sound effects), with exception to the following entries: 
* 'The Price is Right' Theme Song -- both Wikipedia and IMDb credits Edd Kalehoff as composer, but check it—Edd Kalehoff’s Wikipedia page has this line: “Composer of about 1,000 pieces…his credits include the majority of cues used on The Price is Right (although the 1972 theme is officially attributed to Sheila Cole).” -- Used as celebration music for Winning a blood vow! Get it? Oy! We know we are pushing it but, it was used as strictly PARODY! 😬 Please don't sue us!
* "Rhiannon"is a song written by Stevie Nicks and originally recorded by Fleetwood Mac on their eponymous album in 1975; it was subsequently issued as a single the following year. "Rhiannon" was voted #488 in The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time by Rolling Stone magazine. Its US chart peak was in June 1976, when it hit #11. It peaked at #46 in the UK singles chart for three weeks after re-release in February 1978.The song is referred to as simply "Rhiannon" on Fleetwood Mac albums, except on the 2003 and 2016 remasters of Fleetwood Mac and the 2018 compilation Don't Stop - 50 Years, on which the title "Rhiannon (Will You Ever Win)" is used. The single version also used this title when it was originally released to the European and American markets. For this episode's context, we claim "Fair Use"; in the text of the Trilogy it is cited that the Bishop house plays Fleetwood Mac songs at random.
* "Save it for the Show" segment introduction voice-over by Devyn Grendell  
* Cover art (+ all variations associated w/ it): © Daemons Domain 
* The term "unofficial" is explained in our disclaimer located in Terms of Use - item 14.
* The Daemons Discuss podcast is hosted and produced by the owners (Angela, Jean and Valerie) of Daemons Domain and can also be found by entering the url http://www.DaemonsDiscuss.com in your browser, (listed on the various podcast syndicates like iTunes, Stitcher, etc.) which will redirect you back to the parent site, Daemons Domain.
* This podcast is intended for personal download/consumption.  Please see our Terms of Use; item 3.

* FTC: Our podcast episodes are solely sponsored by listeners via Patreon.
* Our episode titles are a loving tribute to the show "Friends" just 'cause we love Friends and - let's face it - it's easier! Here's how one of the show creators explains their reasoning:

Jeff Greenstein: "When Marta & David & Jeff & I did 'Dream On', we used to spend a lot of time thinking about titles, because they were on-screen at the top of each episode. On "Friends", we decided that was a waste of time. We figured, why not name each episode after the thing that people will ostensibly be talking about around the water-cooler the next day?"

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