Monday, June 7, 2021

Daemons Discuss - Podcast: Take 82! | Chapter Discussion about the All Souls Trilogy; Chapter 13 of The Book of Life

To hear us talk, you'd think the title was about the BFF! No, it's about Benjamin. We get it.

Take 82 - The One With the Bad Seed

Description: It's time for Benjamin to triple-down on his awfulness. This time, he relishes in terrorizing Miriam to the point of her chanting prayers while in distress. No fear, Miriam. Chris will save the day! Maybe. In the meantime, Matthew tries to keep his cool, while Diana walks a tightrope between quelling Matthew's protectiveness, and trying to make us feel comfortable with Chris's. Neither is working. ๐Ÿคจ This episode continues the theme of our Chris dislike, but there were good conversations to be had, as far as breaking down the "why". Thanks for sticking with us through the last episode, and take our advice: Don't put too much stock in our feelings and opinions, we offer them as ideas to think about. It's your impression/opinion that matters when it comes to interpreting the chapters for your rereads.

SPOILER ALERT! We (The Daemons) approach this podcast with an assumption that the listener has read All Souls universe books, including the trilogy (A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night, The Book of Life), and  Time's Convert + snippits from The World of All Souls. If you haven't, and you don't mind, we certainly don't mind!  Please be advised, we will approach the television series (A Discovery of Witches) the same way as episodes are released in the US/Canada. ๐Ÿ˜Š  Let's do this. *Note - this podcast is labeled 'explicit'


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1. Show notes:

For newcomers to the series:
  • Our Daemon Guides to the All Souls Trilogy are available for download: ADOW, SON, TBOL 
  • If you'd like a ready-reference from the author herself, be sure to download the All Souls Real-Time Reading companion (free e-book at online booksellers via Penguin and Headline books). For a more in-depth view of the trilogy, The World of All Souls is available at all major book sellers, as well as the continuation volume into this world, Time's Convert.
  • Deborah Harkness usually conducts a real-time reading on her Facebook Page (starting in September), and shares her posts across social media. Check out her website for all of her social media links, and of course all that she has to offer her readers! Be sure to sign up for her newsletter while you are there!
  • To see what's available on the web as far as the All Souls universe fandom, check our links page.

An image from when the Tuskegee Syphilis Study was in full operation.
In this episode:
By the segment . . .
  • (00:15) Intro/Patreon sponsorship
  • (02:14) Discusser emails/Speakpipe - Thank you Marclyn, Flori and Chloe
  • (07:27) Main discussion - Chapter 13 of The Book of Life - sponsored by Catherine Brown.
  • (1:10:22) Housekeeping - Thank you listeners for your reviews, Zoe, and Constance — sponsored by Wendy Taylor
  • (1:18:04) Save It For the Show - What to do during the slow times - Sponsored by Aimee Green
  • (1:30:02) Promo break - scroll down, or click here to get a hold of us and/or become a Discusser -- information on joining our Facebook group also located on that page.
  • (1:31:34) Last thoughts/Outro. 

We imagine Chris's nickname for Benjamin is derived from this 1956 Thriller
Chapter 13, The Book of Life
  • Miriam calling in the middle of the night praying? Nothing is good here.
  • Matthew takes control of the situation — then the light comes on in the hallway ... and here we go!
  • Chris decides now is the time to bust into the crisis!
  • Miriam gets back to herself after she hears her CV recited to her by some stranger.
  • Sarah is woken up, Fernando joins with a laptop. Benjamin's terrible show begins.
  • Benjamin and his witch. Not a happy tale. Benjamin is straight-up crazy.
  • Benjamin seems to be way ahead of Matthew when it comes to discovering why weavers can carry blood rage vampire's offspring.
  • Benjamin signs off with a barely veiled threat to Diana.
  • Matthew pulls an oubliette move: “Let’s rescue the weaver!”
  • Miriam disconnects in Miriam fashion.
  • Chris punches Matthew. We have problems with these actions. It is explained.
  • He tries to punch Matthew again, but not so fast Christopher!
  • Sarah decides a talk needs to happen. After she's had her smoke.
  • The name calling begins “The Bad Seed”
  • Diana decides she’s going to be doormat right……..NOW!
  • Down the stairs we go, and Matthew gives Chris a taste of his own medicine.
  • In the kitchen - it’s time to talk
  • The discussion begins. Darwin, Marcus, science-y stuff. Chris is figuring out what Matthew has been working on.
  • Chris’ cross-examination begins. Matthew doesn’t appreciate it.
  • A science rap-battle occurs.
  • The Tuskegee speech from Chris comes out angry, and we are upset at the “angry black man” trope being employed here. Not on purpose, we believe, but someone should have looked at this.
  • Fernando attempts to move the convo forward. “What do we do now?”
  • Marcus gets called to monitor Benjamin’s feed.
  • Diana gets a phone call. It's Vivian Harrison -- the congregation is on to the Bishops.
  • FIN

Sidonia the Sorceress by Sir Edward Coley Burne-Jones
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