Thursday, July 30, 2020

Daemons Discuss - Podcast: Take 72! | Chapter Discussion about the All Souls Trilogy; Chapter 4 of The Book of Life

The key to it all... (OK, maybe not THE key, but A key 😝)

Take 72 - The One With Congregation Revelation

Description: Through a series of tussles (verbal/physical) between the head of the de Clermont family and the Grand Master of the Knights of Lazarus, we finally learn who in the family actually holds that elusive seat on the Congregation, and where the HQ is located -- REVELATION! After we've examined all of the information in front of us, we finally understand why the rag-tag group of creatures must scatter in a week's time. As we go, these chapters continue to be dense with information, so naturally the episodes are longer! Take it in bites, or gobble the whole thing! P.S. Don't be a "Karen," wear your masks, and let's get out of this mess!

SPOILER ALERT! We (The Daemons) approach this podcast with an assumption that the listener has read All Souls universe books, including the trilogy (A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night, The Book of Life), and  Time's Convert + snippits from The World of All Souls. If you haven't, and you don't mind, we certainly don't mind!  Please be advised, we will approach the television series (A Discovery of Witches) the same way as episodes are released in the US/Canada. 😊  Let's do this. *Note - this podcast is labeled 'explicit'

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1. Show notes:

For newcomers to the series:
  • Our Daemon Guides to the All Souls Trilogy are available for download: ADOW, SON, TBOL 
  • If you'd like a ready-reference from the author herself, be sure to download the All Souls Real-Time Reading companion (free e-book at online booksellers via Penguin and Headline books). For a more in-depth view of the trilogy, The World of All Souls is available at all major book sellers, as well as the continuation volume into this world, Time's Convert.
  • Deborah Harkness usually conducts a real-time reading on her Facebook Page (starting in September), and shares her posts across social media. Check out her website for all of her social media links, and of course all that she has to offer her readers! Be sure to sign up for her newsletter while you are there!
  • To see what's available on the web as far as the All Souls universe fandom, check our links page.
To those of us who read the books prior to the TV show, the Congregation's location was a mystery until now! The Grand Canal in Venice
In this episode:
By the segment . . .
  • (00:15) Intro/Patreon sponsorship
  • (05:07) Discusser emails/Speakpipe - Thank you Zoe, Cassidy, and Chloe.
  • (13:05) Main discussion - Chapter 4 of The Book of Life. Sponsored by Leah Tedrow
  • (59:05) Housekeeping - Thank you Zoe, Olivia and Barbara. Sponsored by Carol Woodward
    Extended emails can be read *HERE*
  • (1:26:18) Save It For the Show - Topic: "KAREN." Sponsored by Kimberly Babcock
  • (1:41:20) Promo break - scroll down, or click here to get a hold of us and/or become a Discusser.
  • (1:42:45) Last thoughts/Outro. 
Chapter 4, The Book of Life
  • Diana starts interrogating Matthew about what’s she’s learned during the first family meeting.
  • When was the last time Matthew was used as the family assassin?πŸ•΅️‍♀️
  • Boob knives! πŸ—‘
  • Gallowglass enters, Matthew takes off with him, and Diana is left wondering what is going on. Marthe: “Meh, Baldwin’s home” πŸ˜‚
  • Diana, meet Earnst. Earnst, Diana. Pleased to meet you! 🀝
  • Earnst and Verin formulate a plan to get Verin into that meeting!
  • Earnst is used to arming himself during these meetings — wha?!
  • The house guests are directed to the salon (Hamish, Sarah, Nathaniel and company...)
  • Scene change! 🎬
  • Wagon crash … of course. πŸ’₯πŸš™
  • Enter the meeting; Phoebe, Marcus, Baldwin, Matthew, Gallowglass are in attendance, and now add Verin and Diana.
  • Baldwin makes a head of the family declaration! πŸ‘‘
  • Marcus is not having it!
  • Was the split of the Congregation/Knights of Lazarus to ensure a power balance?
  • The meeting starts going feral! WATCH IT, PHOEBE! 😳
  • Baldwin breaks it down for the rest of the meeting attendees. Oh, and he happens to be the de Clermont on the Congregation (remember, the TV show was NOT out when we first read this!); revelation #1πŸ’‘
  • Baldwin explains the story from his POV.
  • Democracy’s efficacy with ancient attitudes: #FAIL
  • Baldwin is explaining the damage that Marcus has done.
  • "INFERIOR". Diana: 🀬RAGE! Ysabeau: 😴 Yawn.
  • Baldwin's way: Work the system. Marcus’s way: Burn they systemπŸ”₯!
  • We find out Knox's consequences. πŸš”
  • Knox DID kill Emily. Ooooooooh...
  • The Scottish witches, and their historical Easter-egg tie-ins.
  • The congregation believes Matthew has the missing pages. He doesn’t! It’s the truth…he has missing PAGE! Matthew didn’t lie (much)!
  • However, Ysabeau can smell the LIES πŸ€₯
  • Baldwin lays out what he promised the congregation.
  • Gerbert and Satu will be the Inspectors General! EEK!πŸ™€
  • The family and friends must scatter!
  • The Congregation will have insurance. Ysabeau will be that insurance.
  • Venice is where Congregation headquarters is! For book readers (pre-TV), this was revelation #2.πŸ’‘
  • Ysabeau will be vacationing at Gerbert’s — she’s making sure Gerbert’s 5 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ butcher will be available.πŸ–πŸ§³
  • We all agree that this is a bunch of political theater. 🎭
  • Matthew, Marcus and Diana's roles are laid out by Ysabeau.
  • 🎼🎡 Bach plays so the other vampires won’t eavesdrop. 🎢
  • Matthew and Diana have a conversation argument about the road they need to take re: A782.
  • The case for a strong head of the family; dissertation by Matthew Clairmont. πŸŽ“
  • Diana guesses that Matthew’s role will require him to assassinate Knox. Matthew explains that his actions will not be for the family, but for Emily.
  • Scene change! 🎬
  • Ysabeau and Diana are talking at the temple.
  • Diana shares the letter from Philippe.
  • Ysabeau leaves Diana with advice.
  • FIN
A white hart; Ysabeau describes one visiting the temple occasionally.
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