Thursday, August 17, 2017

Daemons Discuss - Podcast: Take 21! | Chapter Discussion about the All Souls Trilogy; Ch 26 - 29 of A Discovery of Witches

Château de Murol - Deborah Harkness' inspiration for La Pierre

Take 21 - The One With the Dream and the Dungeon

Description: A collection of the most blissful and the most frightening chapters rolled up in one discussion! This discussion opens with Matthew Clairmont's return to Sept-Tours, and closes in a faraway dungeon with Diana Bishop and several spirits. We discuss those events, and what's in between!

SPOILER ALERT! We (The Daemons) approach this podcast with an assumption that the listener has read The All Souls Trilogy, including A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night, and The Book of Life.  If you haven't, and you don't mind, we certainly don't mind!  😊  Let's do this.


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1. Show notes:

For newcomers to the series:
- We'll start with the basics: The books in discussion are A Discovery of Witches, Shadow of Night and The Book of Life.  Together they make The All Souls Trilogy by Deborah Harkness.
- Our Daemon Guides to the All Souls Trilogy are available for download: ADOW, SON, TBOL

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- To see what's available on the web as far as the All Souls universe fandom, check our links page.

In this episode:
All Souls Con Information: 

* (01:08) – Jean was having some connectivity issues with her computer. Val tells her to buy a Mac. It’s a running joke between these two. Before Windows users get irate, Valerie actually believes that whatever system is more comfortable to the user, should be the system they are on. However she strongly believes JEAN would be more comfortable with a Mac. Peer pressure is strong amongst the Daemons!

* (01:35) – We did only four chapters to allow for proper introduction to Baldwin. OK, we can justify it by saying we are covering the kidnapping here and the rescue in the next round. Angela confirms Val’s suspicions. It was totally because of Baldwin! 😏

* (02:16) – Thanks to our Discussers Rute, Angela, and Stephen!

* (05:28) – We always assumed that Matthew killed Gillian after he left Diana with Marcus in Oxford. Angela brings up the tracking of the scent of Gillian on the envelope:
“That picture is a threat—and not an idle one. Hamish thought the Bishop name would make the witches more cautious, but I fear the opposite is true. No matter how great her innate talents might be, Diana can’t protect herself, and she’s too damn self-reliant to ask for help. I need you to stay with her for a few hours.” Matthew dragged his eyes from the picture of Rebecca Bishop and Stephen Proctor. “I’m going to find Gillian Chamberlain.”
“You can’t be sure it was Gillian who delivered that picture,” Marcus pointed out. “There are two different scents on it.”
a. Chapter 26
* (06:37) – Matthew returns!
When the Range Rover entered the courtyard, I flew outside. For the first time in our relationship, Matthew didn’t beat me to the door. He was still straightening his long legs when my arms locked around his neck, my toes barely touching the ground.
“Don’t do that again,” I whispered, my eyes shut against sudden tears. “Don’t ever do that again.”
* (06:52) – Ysabeau’s version of Angela’s “snap out of it!”
His mother strode forward and slapped him, hard, across the face. “How dare you ask that question?”
Mother and son both looked shocked. The mark of Ysabeau’s slender hand stood out against Matthew’s cheek for a split second—red, then blue—before it faded.
Is it here? Maybe? Let's talk about this!
* (07:47) – Our heart vein conversation! This conversation took all kinds of strange turns!  Here are a few quotes to go with that sideways discussion. The issue at hand is where the heart vein is located and whether it came into play in the courtyard in Sept-Tours. Jean mentioned the 'blood song' from earlier in the chapters, and Angela mentioned the wedding night in 1590.
Blood singing (A Discovery of Witches, Chapter 14):
“It’s not only your scent that pleases me. I can hear your witch’s blood as it moves through your veins.” Matthew’s cold lips were against my ear, and his breath was sweet. “Did you know that a witch’s blood makes music? Like a siren who sings to the sailor, asking him to steer his ship into the rocks, the call of your blood could be my undoing—and yours.”
Wedding night (Shadow of Night, Chapter 12):
But Matthew wasn’t paying any attention to me. Instead my husband was focused on the place where my nearly transparent high-necked smock disappeared into the heavy reinforced fabric of the corset. He pressed his lips against the swell. Bowing his head in a reverential pose, he took in a jagged breath.
Where Angela and Valerie agreed where the heart vein was located, somewhere in the region where you would put your hand during the Pledge of Alligiance
* (10:02) – Diana really had NO idea – of ANYTHING. Ysabeau’s quote:
“She has no idea.” Ysabeau’s voice rang through the courtyard. Matthew stiffened, his arms circling me protectively. “With that kiss you have broken every rule that holds our world together and keeps us safe. Matthew, you have marked that witch as your own. And, Diana, you have offered your witch’s blood—your power—to a vampire. You have turned your back on your own kind and pledged yourself to a creature who is your enemy.”
“It was a kiss,” I said, shaken.
“It was an oath. And having made this promise to each other, you are outlaws. May the gods help you both.”
* (12:04) – Heart vein location in Shadow of Night, Chapter 30 (to solve the mapping issues!)
“Vampires bite their mates here,” Matthew said, “near the heart.” His lips pressed against the bare flesh above the edge of my smock. It was where he had kissed me on our wedding night, when his emotions had overwhelmed him.“I thought your wanting to kiss me there was just ordinary lust,” I said.“There is nothing ordinary about a vampire’s desire to take blood from this vein.” He moved his mouth a centimeter lower along the blue line and pressed his lips again.
* (13:22) – Diana should fight like the other women in the family:
“Enough of that nonsense. You are going to be hounded to the ends of the earth because of this love you share. We fight as a family.” Ysabeau turned to me. “As for you, daughter—you will fight, as you promised. You are reckless—the truly brave always are—but I cannot fault your courage. Still, you need him as much as you need the air you breathe, and he wants you as he’s wanted nothing and no one since I made him. So it is done, and we will make the best of it.” Ysabeau unexpectedly pulled me toward her and pressed her cold lips to my right cheek, then my left. I’d been living under the woman’s roof for days, but this was my official welcome. She looked coolly at Matthew and made her real point.
“The way we will make the best of it begins with Diana behaving like a witch and not some pathetic human. The women of the de Clermont family defend themselves.
* (13:51) – The chess references continue . . .
“This is why you are always losing at chess, Matthew.” Ysabeau shook her finger at him. “Like Diana, the queen has almost unlimited power. Yet you insist on surrounding her and leaving yourself vulnerable. This is not a game, however, and her weakness puts us all at risk.”
* (14:17) – The conversations back in the salon: The break ins, the hair and nail conversations, binding spells, Ysabeau’s good impression of Rebecca, and her knowledge of witchcraft. We also learn about the congregation’s interest in Ashmole 782. Diana relayed the events referring to her witchwater, and mentioned Ysabeau singing her out of her deluge.
“Were you alone?” Matthew’s voice turned sharp.
“No, no, of course not,” I said hurriedly. “Marthe and your mother were there. They just couldn’t get near me. There was a lot of water, Matthew. Wind, too.”
“What made it stop?” he asked.
Matthew gave his mother a long look.
“She sang to me.”
The vampire’s heavy lids dropped, shielding his eyes. “Once she sang all the time. Thank you, Maman.”
* (18:08) – Greek funeral ceremony; singing the lamentation (what Jean was talking about). Daemons went on to discuss Ysabeau’s mourning.

* (19:24) – The head probing!
As the day unfolded, Matthew’s happiness at being home was infectious. We moved from lunch to his study. On the floor in front of the fireplace, he discovered most of the places that I was ticklish. Throughout, he never let me behind the walls he’d so carefully constructed to keep creatures away from his secrets.
Once I reached out with invisible fingers to locate a chink in Matthew’s defenses. He looked up at me in surprise.
“Did you say something?” he asked.
“No,” I said, drawing hastily away.
* (19:48) – Arrested action! Sad trombone!
He appeared shortly afterward wearing a pair of loose, striped pajama bottoms and a faded black T-shirt, with no shoes on his long, slender feet. “Do you want the left side or the right?” he asked casually, waiting by the bedpost with his arms crossed.
b. Chapter 27
* (20:43) – Hunting time! Matthew’s anger at Ysabeau’s taking Diana hunting…
“Vampires don’t take warmbloods hunting, Diana.”
This was not a good sign either. He was lying to me.
“Yes they do,” I said softly. “You hunt with Hamish.”
“That’s different. I’ve known him for years, and I don’t share a bed with him.” Matthew’s voice was rough, and he was staring fixedly at his bookshelves.
I started toward him, slowly. “If Hamish can hunt with you, so can I.”
“No.” The muscles in his shoulders stood out in sharp relief, their outlines visible under his sweater.
“Ysabeau took me with her.”
The silence in the room was absolute. Matthew drew in a single, ragged breath, and the muscles in his shoulder twitched. I took another step.
“Don’t,” he said harshly. “I don’t want you near me when I’m angry.”
* (21:40) – The common ground.
“Since I’ve met you,” I said quietly, “you’ve shown me all the pleasant parts of being a vampire. You taste things I can’t even imagine. You remember events and people that I can only read about in books. You smell when I change my mind or want to kiss you. You’ve woken me to a world of sensory possibilities I never dreamed existed.”
I paused for a moment, hoping I was making progress. I wasn’t.
“At the same time, you’ve seen me throw up, set fire to your rug, and  come completely unglued when I received something unexpected in the mail. You missed the waterworks, but they weren’t pretty. In return I’m asking you to let me watch you feed yourself. It’s a basic thing, Matthew. If you can’t bear it, then we can make the Congregation happy and call it off.”
* (21:56) – Jean was a bit upset with Diana’s interference with the stag. Angela saw it as a blessing, Valerie saw it as bringing the deer comfort.
I know that you’re afraid, I said silently, hoping the stag could hear me.  He needs to do this. He doesn’t do this for sport, or to harm you. He does it to stay alive.
* (23:31) – Angela found the perspective in the hunting scene interesting. She questioned if it was part of Diana’s gift to watch everything through Matthew’s eyes.

* (24:22) – 'Ride straight back to Marthe' (Angela makes the observation that Marthe is solid and trustworthy)
“I’ll take you hunting,” Matthew said at last, “provided you don’t come near me and don’t get down from Rakasa’s back. If you get so much as a hint that I’m looking at you—that I’m even thinking about you—turn around and ride straight home to Marthe.”
* (24:50) – Diana gets the sex and survival thing…
Remembering our play in bed that morning, my eyes closed against a sudden jolt of desire. I wanted him as badly here in the forest when he was about to kill something as I had this morning, and I began to understand what worried Matthew about hunting with me. Survival and sexuality were linked in ways I’d never appreciated until now.
* (25:10) – The conversation about having kids, and Matthew’s one (for now) son.
“I haven’t made a vampire for years,” he said. “I can still manage it, but I hope you don’t intend that we have a large family.”
“My family has doubled in the past three weeks, with you, Marthe, and Ysabeau added. I don’t know how much more family I can take.”
“You need to add one more to that number.”
My eyes widened. “There are more of you?”
“Oh, there are always more,” he said drily. “Vampire genealogies are much more complicated than witch genealogies, after all. We have blood relations on three sides, not just two. But this is a member of the family that you’ve already met.”
“Marcus?” I asked, thinking of the young American vampire and his high-tops.
* (27:29) – “Home”
It was twilight when Matthew led us back through the château gates. Sept-Tours was ablaze, every lamp illuminated in silent greeting.
“Home,” I said, my heart lifting at the sight.
Matthew looked at me, rather than the house, and smiled. “Home.”
c. Chapter 28
* (28:00) – In the housekeeping room we learn about Gerbert, we talk about Meridiana, and we talk about our weird affinity for the anti-hero(ine). We also discuss POV’s when history books are written.
From Wikipedia: Gerbert was supposed to have built a brazen head. This "robotic" head would answer his questions with "yes" or "no". He was also reputed to have had a pact with a female demon called Meridiana, who had appeared after he had been rejected by his earthly love, and with whose help he managed to ascend to the papal throne (another legend tells that he won the papacy playing dice with the Devil).  See the whole account here: Pope Sylvester II
We did mention we had an affinity for the Disney 'evil' queens! 😈😈😈
* (29:30) – The Melissa de la Cruz series, (Disney Descendants) is brought up by Angela here, and we bring up Wicked. by Gregory Macguire (of course, made into the famous musical, later).

* (20:06) – They are MARRIED?! We found Diana took the news very well, all things considered.
“I’m not a child, Diana, and my mother needn’t protect me from my own wife.” He kept turning his glass this way and that. The word “wife” echoed in the room for a few moments.
“Did I miss something?” I finally asked. “When were we married?”
Matthew’s eyes lifted. “The moment I came home and said I loved you. It wouldn’t stand up in court perhaps, but as far as vampires are concerned, we’re wed.”
* (31:00) – 'Come to bed!' And Jean defines “third base” for us (in case you wondered.)
He grabbed one of the towels and held it out like a sail in the wind. His eyes were smoky. “Come to bed,” he said, his voice gruff.
* (32:06) – We discuss their conversations, and Matthew’s battle scars.
“What is this, Matthew?” I touched a particularly large snowflake under his left collarbone.
“It’s just a scar,” he said, craning his neck to see. “That one was made by the tip of a broadsword. The Hundred Years’ War, maybe? I can’t remember.”
I slithered up his body to get a better look, pressing my warm skin against him, and he sighed happily.
“A scar? Turn over.”
He made little sounds of pleasure while my hands swept across his back.
“Oh, Matthew.” My worst fears were realized. There were dozens, if not hundreds, of marks. I knelt and pulled the sheet down to his feet. They were on his legs, too.
* (32:34) – This scene is an interesting history lesson!
“I promise not to draw blood, if you promise not to weep.”
It was easier to ignore his words than his fingers. “Prince Arthur and Catherine of Aragon!” I said triumphantly, pleased at my ability to recall relevant historical information under such distracting conditions. “Did you know them?”
“Not Arthur. I was in Florence. But Catherine, yes. She was nearly as brave as you are. Speaking of the past,” Matthew drew the back of his  hand down my arm, “what does the distinguished historian know about bundling?”
* (32:58) – We talk about Matthew’s end here. We were scared Matthew would end it all based on his history!
“My life now has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Everything before was preamble. Now I have you. One day you will be gone, and my life will be over.”
“Not necessarily,” I said hastily. “I’ve only got another handful of decades in me—you could go on forever.” A world without Matthew was unthinkable.
“We’ll see,” he said quietly, stroking my shoulder.
* (33:31) – Death Cab for Cutie, Follow You Into the Dark (it’s on Deb’s playlist).

Love of mine, someday you will die
But I'll be close behind and I'll follow you into the dark
No blinding light or tunnels to gates of white
Just our hands clasped so tight, waiting for the hint of a spark…

Love of mine, someday you will die
But I'll be close behind and I'll follow you into the dark
No blinding light or tunnels to gates of white
Just our hands clasped so tight, waiting for the hint of a spark
If heaven and hell decide that they both are satisfied
And illuminate the no's on their vacancy signs
If there's no one beside you when your soul embarks
Then I'll follow you into the dark
In Catholic school as vicious as Roman rule
I got my knuckles bruised by a lady in black
And I held my tongue as she told me,
Son, fear is the heart of love, so I never went back
You and me we've seen everything to see
From Bangkok to Calgary and the soles of your shoes
Are all worn down
The time for sleep is now
But it's nothing to cry about
'Cause we'll hold each other soon in the blackest of rooms

Songwriters: Benjamin Gibbard
I Will Follow You into the Dark lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
* (34:00) – Matthew snores!
It was just before dawn when I awoke to a strange sound coming from the bed next to me, like gravel rolling around in a metal tube.
Matthew was sleeping—and snoring, too. He looked even more like the effigy of a knight on a tombstone now. All that was missing was the dog at his feet and the sword clasped at his waist.
* (34:29) – Diana goes outside after bundling bliss; we question Diana’s sanity and normalcy! Getting a glass of water, using the restroom, perhaps getting a snack would be ok, but going outside?
Outside, the clouds were still hanging in the sky, but at the horizon they were thin enough to reveal faint traces of red behind the gray layers. It might actually clear today, I thought, stretching slightly and looking back at Matthew’s recumbent form. He would be unconscious for hours. I, on the other hand, was feeling restless and oddly rejuvenated. I dressed quickly, wanting to go outside in the gardens and be by myself for a while.
When I finished dressing, Matthew was still lost in his rare, peaceful slumber. “I’ll be back before you know it,” I whispered, kissing him.
* (35:48) – Angela’s inner Sarah came out with Diana at this point.

* (25:14) – WHOOSH! Diana is snatched.  Jean gives us some interesting tidbits about the symbolism of the  apple and the god of war (Mars). Also the rue that is a main ingredient in that tea.
A gust of wind brushed past me, pulling loose the same infernal lock of hair that would not stay put. My fingers scraped it back in place, just as an arm swept me off the ground.
Ears popping, I was rocketed straight up into the sky.
The gentle tingle against my skin told me what I already knew.
When my eyes opened, I would be looking at a witch.
Chapter 29
* (37:00) – We meet Satu, and we finally see a witch that can actively fly.
My captor’s eyes were bright blue, angled over high, strong cheekbones and topped by a shock of platinum hair. She was wearing a thick, hand-knit turtleneck and a pair of tight-fitting jeans. No black robes or brooms, but she was—unmistakably—a witch.
With a contemptuous flick of her fingers, she stopped the sound of my scream before it broke free. Her arm swept to the left, carrying us more horizontally than vertically for the first time since she’d plucked me from the garden at Sept-Tours.
Matthew would wake up and find me gone. He would never forgive himself for falling asleep, or me for going outside. Idiot, I told myself.
“Yes you are, Diana Bishop,” the witch said in a strangely accented voice.
* (37:40) – We see the castle, later known as La Pierre
We descended toward something that looked like a crater set apart from the surrounding countryside by yawning ravines and overgrown forests. It proved to be the ruin of a medieval castle, with high walls and thick foundations that extended deep into the earth. Trees grew inside the husks of long-abandoned buildings huddled in the fortress’s shadow. The castle didn’t have a single graceful line or pleasing feature. There was only one  reason for its existence—to keep out anyone who wished to enter. The poor dirt roads leading over the mountains were the castle’s only link to the rest of the world. My heart sank.
* (38:12) – Before Satu got sadistic, Valerie was really interested in what she had to say.

* (38:58) – Enter Gerbert and his tales of Meridiana.
“It is a strange book, is it not, Diana? A thousand years ago, I took it from a great wizard in Toledo. When I brought it to France, it was already bound by layers of enchantment.”
“Despite your knowledge of magic, you could not discover its secrets.” The scorn in the witch’s voice was unmistakable. “The manuscript is no less bewitched now than it was then. Leave this to us.”
He continued to advance. “I knew a witch then whose name was similar to yours—Meridiana. She didn’t want to help me unlock the manuscript’s secrets, of course. But my blood kept her in thrall.” He was close enough now that the cold emanating from his body chilled me. “Each time I drank from her, small insights into her magic and fragments of her knowledge passed to me. They were frustratingly fleeting, though. I had to keep going back for more. She became weak, and easy to control.” Gerbert’s finger touched my face. “Meridiana’s eyes were rather like yours, too. What did you see, Diana? Will you share it with me?
* (39:49) – Was it Gillian that was telling on Diana and Matthew? Who was the congregation getting their info from?

* (40:14) – Barbara: here’s what we know…
“I just don’t know if I can handle this, Diana,” she whispered when she took the mug. “Marcus explained what Gillian and Peter Knox had planned. But when I think of Barbara Chamberlain and what she must be feeling now that her daughter is dead—” Em shuddered to a stop.
“Gillian Chamberlain was an ambitious woman, Emily,” said Matthew. “All she ever wanted was a seat at the Congregation’s table.”
* (40:40) – Tasting the salt on the way to France.
“Are you quite sure?” she asked gently. “You’ve never tasted a drop of his blood?”
“Of course not!” My childhood might have been devoid of extensive magical training, but I wasn’t a complete idiot. Vampire blood was a powerful, life-altering substance.
“No memories of a taste of concentrated salt? No unusual fatigue? You’ve never fallen deeply asleep when he was in your presence, even though you didn’t want to close your eyes?”
On the plane to France, Matthew had touched his fingers to his own lips, then to mine. I’d tasted salt then. The next thing I knew, I was in France. My certainty wavered.
* (41:52) – Satu lies!
“Your mother and father wouldn’t have wanted you to fall into a vampire’s snares,” Satu explained, as if I were a child. “They knew how important it was to preserve the bonds between witches.”
“What did you say?” There was no whirling now. Instead my mind seemed unusually sharp and my skin was tingling all over, as if a thousand witches were staring at me. There was something I was forgetting, something about my parents that made everything Satu said a lie.
* (42:18) – The oubliette; we weren’t sure if Diana was dreaming while in it, we also talk about the tree roots coming up through the floors. Then we start discussing the word “oubliette” and why would someone want one inside their house?  Why not build a hole outside! Would it be in a medieval MLS listing as a feature? 😜

The view from the business end of an oubliette. We imagine Diana's view was similar.
* (44:55) – Rebecca …
My mother was sitting there, propped against the oubliette’s damp stone walls, holding her arms open. I inched toward her, holding my breath for fear she would disappear. She smiled in welcome, her dark eyes shining with unshed tears. My mother’s ghostly arms and fingers flicked this way and that as I snuggled closer to her familiar body.
Shall I tell you a story?
* (46:16) – Jean shares some apple trivia; Celtic mythology & apples.

* (46:49) – The ghosts in the oubliette:
I slept a bit, but it was hard to ignore the ghosts once they started chattering. At least they provided some light in the gloom. Every time they moved, a tiny bit of phosphorescence smudged the air, linking where they had just been to where they were going. A young woman in filthy rags sat opposite me, humming quietly to herself and staring in my direction with vacant eyes. In the center of the room, a monk, a knight in full armor, and a musketeer peered into an even deeper hole that emitted a feeling of such loss that I couldn’t bear to go near it. The monk muttered the mass for the dead, and the musketeer kept reaching into the pit as if looking for something he had lost.
* (48:06) – Being 'in' this world…we learn in later chapters that Diana floats in between worlds.

* (48:44) – Aurora Consurgens –  when Diana chants them like a spell:
“‘It is I who mediates the elements, bringing each into agreement,’” I mumbled through stiff lips. “‘I make what is moist dry again, and what is dry I make moist. I make what is hard soft again, and harden that which is soft. As I am the end, so my lover is the beginning. I encompass the whole work of creation, and all knowledge is hidden in me.’” Something shimmered against the wall nearby. Here was another ghost, come to say hello, but I closed my eyes, too tired to care, and returned to my recitation.
“‘Who will dare to separate me from my love? No one, for our love is as strong as death. ’”
* (49:10) – “You are my biggest secret” and the “handsome prince that lived in the shadows between sunset and moonrise.” quotes are truly touching to us.

* (49:49) – We are still curious as to why Rebecca and Stephen were in Nigeria? We welcome any ideas from listeners!

* (51:04) Housekeeping!Thanks Wendy, and our new Canadian reviewer!

* (54:31) Save It For the Show…  we discuss a post in a Facebook group questioning the book series’ feminist merits. We find the accusations more than a bit absurd. We concluded that the person may have been a shit-stirring troll, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or just someone who was extremely naïve. We discuss how we were raised as young feminist idealists (based on the ideals for the time).  Now as more enlightened feminists, we realize not choosing to “have it all” does not ruin feminist credibility. Also, stupidity knows no gender!

* (1:02:23) Promo breakscroll down, or click here to get a hold of us and/or become a Discusser.

* (1:03:55) – Last thoughts/things we can’t let go of! Angela loves the feedback and reviews, Jean doesn’t feel like we have followers, just friends in the community, and all of the Daemons imagine they are just talking to their original 10 listeners in order to make it through! We also talked about our crazy growth! Trust us, we aren’t complaining! We appreciate all of you and everything that goes with it. Special gratitude on this episode goes to Kate, Wendy, Patricia, Rute, Stephen, Angela and our new friend to the north who gave us that cool review!

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* Our episode titles are a loving tribute to the show "Friends" just 'cause we love Friends and - let's face it - it's easier! Here's how one of the show creators explains their reasoning:
Jeff Greenstein: "When Marta & David & Jeff & I did 'Dream On', we used to spend a lot of time thinking about titles, because they were on-screen at the top of each episode. On "Friends", we decided that was a waste of time. We figured, why not name each episode after the thing that people will ostensibly be talking about around the water-cooler the next day?"
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